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10 May, 2013
1. RE:Climate Change Adaptation Examples from Local Councils Darron Passlow
2. RE:Global Warming by Mankind Fallacy Darron Passlow
3. RE:Sea levels are rising 60% faster than UN expected Darron Passlow
08 May, 2013
4. RE:Climate Change Adaptation Examples from Local Councils Catherine Kinsey
07 May, 2013
5. RE:Climate Change Adaptation Examples from Local Councils Catherine Kinsey
06 May, 2013
6. RE:Climate Change Adaptation Examples from Local Councils Stephen Lees
04 May, 2013
7. RE:Climate Change Adaptation Examples from Local Councils Mark Ibrahim
02 May, 2013
8. RE:Climate Change Adaptation Examples from Local Councils Darron Passlow
01 May, 2013
9. RE:Climate Change Adaptation Examples from Local Councils Stephen Lees
30 April, 2013
10. RE:Climate Change Adaptation Examples from Local... Darron Passlow


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RE:Climate Change Adaptation Examples from Local Councils
From: Darron Passlow
To: Sustainability
Posted: 10 May, 2013 6:58 PM
Subject: RE:Climate Change Adaptation Examples from Local Councils
Message:
Catherine
Thank you for this article and it does make a lot of sense.
Resilience is a wonderful word and description, that most people (with some exceptions) will not be able to complain (winge/doubt) about. (Climate Change advocates please note!)

Stephen
Here is a great theme for your conference (nex year) - "How Resilient is LG Infrastructre (Planning)"

Resilience applies across asset management whatever the risk/occurrence/uncertainty might be.

Let's start a discussion on the "Reslience of Council Assets" (as we are not having much luck on actual adaptation examples - what is currently being done)

Regards

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Darron Passlow
Asset Management
Pittwater Council
MONA VALE NSW

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RE:Global Warming by Mankind Fallacy
From: Darron Passlow
To: Sustainability
Posted: 10 May, 2013 6:58 PM
Subject: RE:Global Warming by Mankind Fallacy
Message:
Bill
Give me your thoughts on our talking about "Resilience" as a major driver for how we manage our assets (soft and hard) in the future.
Resilience (and a very good article) was mentioned and highlighted in another discussion through this forum.
Go and have a look at this (before commenting).

Resilience is something that does not fill a lot of "mind space" when people think or talk about Asset Management or the effects on assets from the environment (or other sources).

I have asked for a new topic on "Reslience of LG Assets". This should (at least) be in the Asset Management forum.

All, I hope you support this.

Regards

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Darron Passlow
Asset Management
Pittwater Council
MONA VALE NSW

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RE:Sea levels are rising 60% faster than UN expected
From: Darron Passlow
To: Sustainability
Posted: 10 May, 2013 6:58 PM
Subject: RE:Sea levels are rising 60% faster than UN expected
Message:
All

Let us contribute now to "Resilience" planning when it comes to our assets (see relevant comments under another heading in this discussion).

A new topic here (or more importantly under Asset Mates discussions) might be a good idea.

The topic might be "How Resilient is LG Assets".

Chris, wht do you think?

Regards
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Darron Passlow
Asset Management
Pittwater Council
MONA VALE NSW

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RE:Climate Change Adaptation Examples from Local Councils
From: Catherine Kinsey
To: Sustainability
Posted: 08 May, 2013 12:26 AM
Subject: RE:Climate Change Adaptation Examples from Local Councils
Message:

Just after penning the above, I was sent the link below from another organisation.  Very apt.

http://jonathanfprose.com/2013/04/24/resilience-lessons-from-katrina-and-sandy/

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Catherine Kinsey
Co-ordinator Stormwater and Structural Design
Campbelltown City Council
CAMPBELLTOWN NSW

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RE:Climate Change Adaptation Examples from Local Councils
From: Catherine Kinsey
To: Sustainability
Posted: 07 May, 2013 8:10 PM
Subject: RE:Climate Change Adaptation Examples from Local Councils
Message:
Hi Darron

Not replying and not caring are different!!

I have been reading the discussion with interest. I agree with what both you and Stephen are saying and I am sure many others feel the same.

My two cents worth.  I think we should focus on climate variability rather than climate change. The knockers will argue climate change may or may not be happening (to me there is no doubt) and you are asking people to accept something that is happening in a geological time scale when most people only really relate to a human time scale.

Climate variability is not negotiable. Dorothea Mackellar had that right. And if we have infrastructure (both engineered and natural) that is climate resilient, don't we get the same outcome?

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Catherine Kinsey
Co-ordinator Stormwater and Structural Design
Campbelltown City Council
CAMPBELLTOWN NSW

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RE:Climate Change Adaptation Examples from Local Councils
From: Stephen Lees
To: Sustainability
Posted: 06 May, 2013 2:50 AM
Subject: RE:Climate Change Adaptation Examples from Local Councils
Message:

Hi Darron,

Thanks for those further thoughts. We seem to be thinking on the same wavelength. 

The IPWEA conference we are planning for next year won't focus exclusively on climate change. It is proposed to deal broadly with the challenges - and opportunities - of sustainably managing local infrastructure (including in a changing climate).  It will certainly include consideration of the future financial sustainability of local government infrastructure, along with related topics like levels of services and willingness/capacity to pay. So I expect there will be a lot of discussion at the conference also about asset management - a subject of particular relevance and interest to IPWEA members and its networks.

It is still early days in our planning for the conference, and everyone's good ideas and suggestions are very welcome. A call for abstracts is likely to be issued in a few months. 

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Dr Stephen Lees
National Director Sustainability
IPWEA
stephen.lees@ipwea.org.au
(m) 0412 264 187

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RE:Climate Change Adaptation Examples from Local Councils
From: Mark Ibrahim
To: Sustainability
Posted: 04 May, 2013 2:33 AM
Subject: RE:Climate Change Adaptation Examples from Local Councils
Message:
Hi Darron,

I actually think the discussion is relevant and technical solutions and processes should be canvassed for bodies like the IPWEA to promote and put forward to the political arena who ultimatley make the final calls.

I agree with you that the biggest challenge is the sceptics, but its the extremist views is what I think clouds the practical solutoins that could be simple. We need to accept that we can't solve climate change in 5-10 years nor 50 years. It should be about adopting policies that are financially feasible that will manage climate change rather then then thinking we can change it.

The sceptics and public perception is that we are trying to spend money on reducing our 0.01% of the global impact. Until we turn the discussions around too to improving the communities safety and well being (which is our code we uphold as engineers) to cater for the risks associated with sea level rises, and greater fluctuations in weather patterns, we will forever be in a circle of opinions with no end result.

Keep the discussion alive as its healthy and will hopefully get some results with time.

Regards

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Mark Ibrahim
Director
MI Design Group Pty Ltd - Ibrahim Stormwater Consultants
CHERRYBROOK NSW

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RE:Climate Change Adaptation Examples from Local Councils
From: Darron Passlow
To: Sustainability
Posted: 02 May, 2013 5:01 PM
Subject: RE:Climate Change Adaptation Examples from Local Councils
Message:
Stephen
I think we are moving in the right direction.
Your suggested IPWEA conference (future) got me thinking - Keep thinking innovation!
Tie financial viability and climate change together! We need to get the climate change sceptics on board.
We need to talk about this financial problem (as a focus). Poor asset management has been (and still is) a major contributor to this (financial shortfalls and problems).
Huge dollar values for backlog (and renewal) are also of concern.
One way to reduce this concern (backlog) is having "proper" disposal policy - very rare for most councils.
Disposal is a key component od Good Asset Management Practice ('GAMP') but is not often practiced (as it is politically difficult to achieve).
Generally disposal is thought about where the service the asset was providing is no longer needed or relevant.
Get rid of the asset off the books - gets rid of the depreciation and future work on this and any backlog attributed to it.
Do this on a big enough scale and reduce backlog and we improve future financial sustainability.
But hey hang on, what about the services it provides - we need to decide (with the community) is this service (or a different service) now required. Good so far, we are taking the community into our confidence.

Now bring in climate change considerations (little at a time).
Lets assume sea levels will rise.
Then look at assets that are close/on sea side (that will be affected) and decide;
1 Should we dispose of them
2 Do we do any work (maintenance, renwal) on them
3 Do we ignore them
4 Do we continue to operate them
5 Shouldn't we save current expenditure and future expenditure and use this elsewhere

We could "kill a few birds" with one stone.
Just a thought in our (your and my) debate. We could proably do this via email a lot more quickly (as no one else seems to care!)


Regards

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Darron Passlow
Asset Management
Pittwater Council
MONA VALE NSW

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RE:Climate Change Adaptation Examples from Local Councils
From: Stephen Lees
To: Sustainability
Posted: 01 May, 2013 2:44 AM
Subject: RE:Climate Change Adaptation Examples from Local Councils
Message:
Hi Darron,

Thanks for your suggestions and your interest in these matters.  There certainly is a great deal that can be done in regard to sustainability and IPWEA.  With only two days per week, the key challenge for me is always to focus on initiatives that will be of most help to members in their professional work.

I am also very conscious that most members in local government are very time constrained. As a result, matters that do not appear to be urgent or pressing risk being set aside.  For various reasons (including the breaking of the Millennium drought in eastern Australia, slow progress on international abatement efforts, the acrimonious Carbon Tax debate, changes in many state governments, flurry of recent adaptation research) the impetus for climate change adaptation planning unfortunately appears to have waned.

Local councils in New South Wales and Queensland (and possibly elsewhere) that were formerly required to develop local climate change adaptation plans no longer have to do so.  Despite this, the climate continues to change (not withstanding the recent La Nina event) and local councils need to consider and account for climate change whenever they make decisions with long lasting legacies. 

Rather than developing stand-alone climate change adaptation plans, which risk being ignored, a better approach is to 'mainstream' climate change and sustainability issues by incorporating its consideration into all council activities where the time scales involved warrant that. Some recently completed adaptation planning studies, both locally and overseas, suggest how that might be done. The key challenge, of course, is how we deal with the considerable uncertainties about exactly what the climate will be in the future. Fortunately innovative adaptation strategies and decision-making methods able to cope with the uncertainty about future climate are now emerging.  

I will continue to monitor developments in this field and inform members about the most useful through the IPWEA website and other forums.  A major IPWEA conference is being considered for next year focusing on sustaining local government infrastructure in the face of a changing climate and other challenges, such as financial sustainability. In pursuing those initiatives I will keep in mind your remarks and welcome further suggestions and comments from this forum.
 
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Dr Stephen Lees
National Director Sustainability
IPWEA
stephen.lees@ipwea.org.au
(m) 0412 264 187

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RE:Climate Change Adaptation Examples from Local Councils
From: Darron Passlow
To: Sustainability
Posted: 30 April, 2013 12:16 AM
Subject: RE:Climate Change Adaptation Examples from Local Councils
Message:
Stephen
Thanks for the impromptu report.

All I can say for a 2 day a week involvement, you might have too much on your plate.
I suggest a focus, and focus on something different - to help engineers in Councils come up with their own solutions.
Leave all the other bodies to do their thing - keep an eye on it but come up with your (IPWEA's) manageable, innovative plan.
I would suggest you focus on helping councils (engineers) to come up with "adaptation plans" that add value and do not "break the bank".
You would realise Councils (particularly in NSW, but everywhere) are struggling with their own "sustainability" (viability). A recent NSW Treasury report gave a very telling, poor financial longevity scorecard to most councils in NSW. This is now leading into detailed and precise discussion on Council amalgamation (to help solve a number of problems, not the least being their financial viablity).
There is just not enough money to do what needs to be done with the current council assets /rating/funding/renewal/backlog etc.
We need to work out how we stay in the black while we include provisions for new "wicked" phenomenon.
Wicked problems (APS definition includes climate change amongst these) need innovative solutions.
Lets get our innovation hats on (as IPWEA) and come up with our own useful, managable approach.
This will help Councils and council engineers (and ultimately our customers - the community) and drive greater involvement in IPWEA.

Regards

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Darron Passlow
Asset Management
Pittwater Council
MONA VALE NSW

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